Transfers for Nov. 6-10


Abita Oaks Loop 144: $204,000, Mark & Kasey LLC to Jerry L. Hall and Earline D. Hall.

Abita Springs Annex subdivision, portion of ground: $25,000, Michael G. Strain and Susan S. Strain to Charles J. Strain III.

Crestwood Estates, Phase 2-F, lot 113: $170,069, Federal National Mortgage Association to Edward Pablovich III and Anne Pablovich.

Dundee Loop South 3072: $164,000, Madeline Rose Carbon to Denise R. Guy.

Near Abita Springs, lot 7, square 37: $27,500, Deanne F. Dupoint to Matthew A. Landry and Courtney Roche' Landry.

Niblick Street, lots 1, 2, square 12: $8,600, Succession of Ruth Edith Darouse Downs, Harvey A. Downs and Larry G. Downs to William E. Peeples and Annie D. Peeples.

Rue Chardonnay Drive 214: $210,000, Wanda Rae Stein Touard to John R. Sewell IV and Brittany Lass Sewell.


Crawford Road 19386: $173,500, Timothy J. Berger and Susan G. Berger to Dennis C. Hill.

Division of New Covington subdivision, lot 3, square 2501: donation, no value stated, Garland R. Bickham to Garland R. Bickham Trust.

A St. 70439: $142,759, J. P. Morgan Chase Bank NA to Marc Winslow.

A.W. Galloway Road 20053: $57,780, Aegis Asset-Backed Securities Trust to RSDI Properties LLC.

Anthony Lane 5004: $155,000, Resource Bank to Troy J. Lyle and Theresa D. Lyle.

Anthony Lane 5008, Unit 15: $168,000, Resource Bank to Kelly E. Bruno.

Bamboo Drive 234: $231,500, Danny T. Smith and Greta R. Smith to James A. Morocco and Monica F. Morocco.

Bateleur Way 612: $210,000, Jordan A. Chaklos-Sracic to Jared M. Vogel and Jamie L. Ban.

C St. 70282: $145,000, Aaron C. Coudrain and Cora N. Coudrain to Austin J. Haik.

C St. 70339: $129,900, Douglas G. Michel and Katherine W. Michel to Gina Dupuy Budde.

Chandler Drive 20110: $215,000, Leslie S. Sharp to Taylor C. Brantley and Laura B. Brantley.

Cottonwood Creek Lane 452: $389,000, 110 Builders LLC to Larry D. Schellang and Christine T. Schellang.

Division of New Covington subdivision, lot 3, square 2501: $75,000, Constance A. Bickham Ponthieux to Garland R. Bickham Trust.

Division of New Covington subdivision, lot 5, square 2908: $20,100, St. Tammany Parish to Thuy T. Kim.

Division of New Covington subdivision, lot 8, square 1609: $50,000, Sherri H. Tyler to James P. Ellingsworth and Darnell Ellingsworth.

Downs Ave. 74149: $172,000, Stephen W. Heck and Connie M. Heck to Jesse L. Lee and Dolly N. Baughman Lee.

E. Creek Court 1048: $169,900, DSLD Homes LLC to Mark M. Macera and Stephanie Lovas Cardenal.

Emerald Forest Blvd. 350, Unit 26110: $106,500, Rachael L. Berggren to Konstantinos Kritikos.

Golfers Drive 99: $235,000, Justin A. Evans and Megan G. Evans to Michael D. Scales and Elmo J. Ancar.

Grand Turk 918: $360,000, Paulette Switzer Cali to Frank Isolani and Ena M. Isolani.

Heritage Oaks Drive 312: $910,000, Rhett J. Bunce and Angela Gill Bunce to Nathan R. Parker and Arleen H. Parker.

Hidden Creek subdivision, lot 22: $397,000, Jenkins Homes Inc. to Casey A. Davis and Brittany L. Collura.

I St. 70418: $160,000, Michael J. Dean to Earl A. Pradat and Brenda F. Peters.

Lakewood Northshore Drive 613: $43,000, First Horizon Inc. to Robert P. Turner III and Jacquelyn Turner.

Larkspur Lane 4: $375,000, Harrison Custom Homes LLC to Andrew M. Stone and Margaret E. Lehner Stone.

Louisiana Highway 25 76083: no value stated, Hanson M. Mansfield and Bonnie N. Mansfield to Hanson M. Mansfield and Bonnie N. Mansfield.

N. Acadia Park land 528: $304,550, DSLD Homes LLC to Catherine E. Ziegler.

N. Acadia Park Land 529: $288,695, DSLD Homes LLC to Jacqueline L. Gallegos.

N. Gretchen Drive 23416: $262,000, Pat Mccormick Homes LLC to Jason C. Houidobre and Meghan T. Houidobre.

N. Rian Drive 23335: $300,000, Dale J. Gautheir and Kelly Z. Gauthier to David S. Garic and Judy B. Garic.

Palm Blvd. 20109: $130,000, Chester F. Christopher II to Torrie B. Pravata.

Penn Court 409: $216,000, Alan J. Arcana and Cherie M. Arcana to Steven N. Petty and Natalie M. Petty.

Penn Mill Lakes Blvd. 277: $185,000, Donald P. Fincher and Colleen D. Fincher to Aaron C. Coudrian and Cora N. Coudrian.

River Club subdivision, Phase 1, lots 69, 71: $330,000, River Club Development LLC to PBG Home Properties LLC.

River Lake Drive 13635: donation, no value stated, Bradley C. Davis and Julie Beth Fridge Davis to John D. Fridge Sr. and Ellen Thompson Fridge.

River Park Estates, Phase 1, lots 1, 2, 3, 4, square 9: $168,000, River Park Estates LLC to D. R. Horton Inc.-Gulf Coast.

Riverbend Drive 63: donation, no value stated, James A. Burke to 63 Blue Jay Trust.

Rue De Bac 535: $285,000, Eileen C. Boudoin to Stephen O. Johns and Donis J. Johns.

S. Polk St. 506: $235,000, Thomas E. Drake and Donna T. Drake to Michael J. Gomez and Donna S. Gomez.

S. Verona Drive 156: $345,000, DSLD Homes LLC to Benjamin J. Woodrow and Jacqueline D. Woodrow.

Summer St. 116: $130,000, Carolyn Francdes Spizale Henning to Katherine Hill.

Tallow Creek subdivision, Phase 1-I-1, lot 269: $245,000, Matthew N. Marrs and Kristin J. Marrs to Craig S. Arbo and Susan G. Arbo.

Tammany Hills subdivision, lot 15-A, square 33: $169,000, Scott M. O'Flynn to Steven M. Cornman.

Terra Bella subdivision, Phase 1-A-7, lot 330: $99,500, Terra Bella Group LLC to Angela G. Bunce.

Town of Alexiusville subdivision, portion of ground: $262,500, Smith Road Ventures LLC to Martin Development LLC.

Town of Alexiusville, portion of ground: $2,425, St. Tammany Parish to Stemar Enterprises LLC.

Twin River Drive 326: $759,900, Stephen M. Treece and Kimberley R. Treece to Kevin M. Tauzier and Whitney S. Tauzier.

Twin River Drive 328: $730,000, Succession of Kelvin P. McDaniel and Suzanne Guichard McDaniel to John R. Morgan IV and Patricia E. Morgan.

W. 18th Ave. 614-A-B: $1,840,000, Neurological Rehab Living Centers Louisiana LLC to Capgrow Holdings JV Commercial Sub I LLC.

Watercross Estates, Phase 1-A, lot 143: donation, no value stated, Watercross Development LLC to Raising the Roof for Charity Foundation.

West St. 70360: $147,000, Milda S. Richbourg and Paulette R. Mitchell to Shaun R. Huber and Jessica S. Huber.

Woodcrest Blvd. 240: $165,000, Reverse Mortgage Solutions Inc. to Federal National Mortgage Association.


Highlands subdivision, lot 81: $45,000, Bobby McIntyre Construction LLC to John C. McGowan Jr. and Barbara S. McGowan.

Louisiana Highway 25 78263: $450,000, Richerand Asset Management LLC to Magee Development LLC.

Louisiana Highway 25 84252: $82,950, U. S. ROF III Legal Title Trust 2015-1 to IGLOO Series III Trust.

Near Folsom, lot 2: $25,000, Succession of Inez Baham Pelitere to Jason M. Rainey.

Section 27, township 5 south, range 10 east, portion of ground: $30,000, Paul J. Sita and Theresa S. Sita to Leo A. Hladky Jr. and Lynne L. Hladky.

Vineyard Road 87492: $135,156, CMH Homes Inc. to Shane E. Maricelli and Dionne N. Maricelli.


Berry Todd Road 386A-2: $33,000, George Muller and Barbara Muller revocable living trust to Steven Noel Taylor and Cindy Frazer Taylor.

Cypress Park subdivision, lots 36-44, square 13: $90,000, Burgess Inc. to Rothside Properties LLC.

Dinkins Drive 29485: $132,000, Tracia C. Langowski to Michael A. Miley.

Elm St. 29269: $164,000, K&B Home Builders LLC to Michael A. Free and Kendra Lynn Free.

Emerald Drive 60360: $35,000, KTF Properties LLC to Roosevelt Ross Jr.

Pichon Road, lots 1, 2, 3, 4, 12, 13, 14, 15, square 71: $35,000, Raymond C. Malter and Alice L. Malter to Joseph O. Cousin III.

Shirley's Sweet Shop Road 28214: donation, no value stated, Walter Cousin, Mary Cousin Lewis, Elizabeth Doris Cousin Smith and Michael J. Cousin to Madeline Cousin.

W. Springmill Drive 61093: $273,000, George G. Lacour Sr. and Rose R. Bourlet to Jacob S. Chambers and Pamela D. Chambers.


Town of Madisionville, lot 6-A, square 2: $520,000, Federal Deposit Insurance Corp. to Heritage Bank of St. Tammany.

Bedico Creek subdivision, Phase 12-B, lots 461, 462, 491, 492: $215,600, Bedico Interests LLC to Alvarez Construction Co. LLC.

Coushatta Circle 237: $225,000, James E. Swinnen and Daria S. Swinnen to Robin G. Inman and Annlee Earles.

E. Louisiana Highway 127, Unit S-20: $210,000, Steven J. Stainback to Don M. Singletary and Stacie L. Singletary.

Falling Leaf Lane 504: $254,000, Dennis William George Hackney and Meg Good Hackney to Michele Lynn Malter.

Foxfield Lane 612: $62,024, Home Solutions Property Group LLC to Joseph A. Dazet and Dana M. Dazet.

Gainesway Drive 413: donation, no value stated, Frank Varuso, Jack J. Varuso, Diana Varuso Usner and Jude A. Varuso to Randy P. Varuso.

Gainesway Drive 413: $190,000, Randy P. Varuso to Jude A. Varuso.

Hirson Court 70088: $224,000, Julie D. Martensson to Randall DeCastro and Jennifer Knox.

Kensington Drive 211: $545,000, Inger J. Novoa to Benjamin J. Guillory and Gina P. Cherry.

Knotty Pine Court 416: $299,365, DSLD Homes LLC to Samuel J. Pessin Jr. and Linda P. Pessin.

Pencarrow Circle 440: $583,500, Larry D. Schellang and Christine T. Schellang to Roy E. Thomas and Angela M. Thomas.

Pine Grove Loop 689: $351,520, Coast Builders LLC to Jonathan Heckert and Doris Ines Glass Heckert.

Ring Neck Drive 7064: $289,000, BMI Construction LLC to Miles C. Abadie and Mallory C. Abadie.

Seabiscuit Loop West 508: $275,000, Toby E. Scelson and Simone B. Scelson to Robert E. Walker and Kasey B. Walker.

Section 41, township 7 south, range 10 east, portion of ground: $290,000, SVS Hwy 21 LLC to Faye L. Wagner.

St. Calais Place 177: $278,000, Conbeth Development LLC to Michael H. Tureaud and Jeanne A. Turead.

Taverny Court 69341: $217,500, Shaw Investments LLC to Jonathan M. Demma and Kristen L. Hale.

Taverny Court 69525: $222,000, Stephanie Creel to Jeffrey G. Bean.

Three Rivers Heights subdivision, lots 163, 181: $32,000, KSRPP LLC to SMB Construction LLC.

Timberwood Loop 624: $245,000, Federal National Mortgage Association to Jeffery G. Boice and Dianne R. Boice.

Tumble Creek Drive 521: $310,855, DSLD Homes LLC to Douglas King and Lauren King.

Woods Drive 110: $200,000, Shaw Investments LLC to Roger A. Bacon.


Baudot Place subdivision, lots 5, 6, square 6: donation, no value stated, Julia B. Edgerson to Julia Butler Edgerson revocable living trust.

Near Mandeville, portion of ground: $28,000, David L. Hood, John L. Hood and Barbara B. Hood to Dayni N. Langoni.

Section 13, township 7 south, range 11 east, portion of ground: $15,000, Northern Homes Inc. to Rowell Living Trust.

Abita Ave. 70416: $116,000, Wells Fargo Bank NA to Casacorp LLC.

Airfield subdivision, Phase 2, lot 17: no value stated, Kevin M. Tauzier and Whitney S. Tauzier to Robert L. Krummel and Michelle K. Krummel.

Bon Temps Roule 225: $164,000, Adam P. Kurhan to Jane E. Garden.

Brandon Place 104: $315,000, Terry Leonard Gleason to Patricia Regina Lacoste.

Cedarwood Drive 603: $101,000, Deanna R. Mancuso to Konstantinos Kritikos.

Chateau Sonesta 332: $420,000, Joshua A. Hunt and Dina B. Hunt to Michael S. Schmelling and Elizabeth G. Schmelling.

Cottage Court 37: $195,000, Clare M. Uzee to Elise Flach.

Cours Carson St. 2340: $239,000, Ashley Nicole Burns to William A. DeAngelis.

Deval Drive 106: $155,000, Michael S. Bard to Brand M. Fischer.

E. Tradewinds Court 40: $152,000, Vince Thomas Garagola and Alicia R. Megison Garagola to Beacon Real Estate Development LLC.

Edgewater Drive 7061: $495,000, Stuart T. Palermo and Holly D. Palermo to Jeffrey M. Levis and Diane A. Levis.

Golden Shores subdivision, lot 211, square 12: $41,000, Russell A. Landry Jr. and Mary Lou S. Landry revocable living trust to Town North Construction LLC.

Grande Maison subdivision, Phase 2, lot 105: no value stated, Keith R. Campbell and Kristina Thuy Trinh to John Schaefer Jr. and Cathy Schaefer.

Grande Maison subdivision, Phase 3-B, lot 216: $71,000, Grande Maision Development LLC to MJB Construction LLC.

Grande Maison subdivision, Phase 3-B, lot 234: $71,000, Grande Maision Development LLC to Turnkey Homes LLC.

Heavens Drive 729, Unit: $82,400, Rodger A. Malehorn and Virginia W. Malehorn to Jay C. Driggers.

Hector St. 19243: $183,000, Bryan J. Baumy Jr. and Rori A. Crowley Baumy to Timothy C. Michel.

Hiern Drive 67480: $136,000, Succession of Lawrence Harold Graff Sr. to Brian L. Finnan.

Lane St. 790: $187,500, Austin B. Condon to Jennifer G. Springer.

Laurel Oak Drive 513: $214,900, Mary Ann Richards Songer to Susan B. Schleigh.

Lazy Creek Drive 130: $200,000, Ellie M. Saucier and Robert C. Saucier to Jacob P. Palmisano.

Mailleville subdivision, portion of ground: $300, Joseph Showers Jr. to Dragonfly Enterprises Inc.

Montgomery St. 1020: $369,500, Danny J. Gaspard and Carolyn H. Gaspard to Kimberly M. Lavigne.

Morningside Drive 211: $799,000, Alessandro Fenzi and Bonnie J. Fenzi to Stuart T. Palermo and Holly D. Palermo.

Nancy St. 821: $174,000, Kirk L. White to Kenneth J. LeBlanc.

Near Mandeville, lots 16, 18, square 376-B, lots 15, 17, square 377-A, lots 10, 12, square 382-B: $5,050, St. Tammany Parish to Daryl E. Landry Jr. and Kathryn C. Landry.

Near Mandeville, portion of ground: $17,500, Michael W. Ybarzabal and Sherrie S. Ybarzabal to BBB Holdings LLC.

Oleander Court 201: $175,000, Crosby Development Co. LLC to Michael J. Becker and Michelle M. Becker.

Penrose St. 1414: $153,000, Veronica Schenck Flynn to Angil P. Morris.

Range Court 3207: $277,500, Steven O. Barrios and Toni U. Barrios to Corey J. Bordelon and Amanda A. Bordelon.

Remington Drive 170: $390,400, Robert A. Durand and Patricia S. Durand to Timothy N. Hewitt and Teresa V. Hewitt.

Sandra Del Mar Drive 173: $60,000, Glennis E. Moore to Taylor Gilliam and Lindsay Gilliam.

Sandra Lee Drive 225: $246,500, Michael S. Schmelling and Elizabeth G. Schmelling to Christopher E. Foote.

Scotchpine Drive 519: $310,000, Kent J. Sharp to Thomas S. Carpenter.

Tall Timbers subdivision, lot 176: $50,000, Charles A. Dranguet Jr. to May Investments LLC.

Tchefuncte Oaks Drive 502: $375,000, Cathy C. Wilson Rackley to Donald Trexler.

Third Street, lots 19, 20, square 17: $40,000, Adelaide Hull Nolan to Labarre Street LLC.

Town of Mandeville, lot E, square 183: $67,000, Sylvia Carroll Smith, Jacqueline C. Leonard and Darlene C. Bertrand to Barkemeyer Construction LLC.

Village Square subdivision, lot 19: $12,600, St. Tammany Parish to Roy G. McLaughlin Jr. and Shannon L. McLaughlin.

W. Hickory St. 103: $160,000, Betty Perkins Dusang Jennings to Casey Marie Patterson.


Berkshire Drive 1081: $201,855, DSLD Homes LLC to Brittany Lyn Lagarde.

Burnham Addition subdivision, portion of ground: $10 and other good and valuable considerations, Secretary of Housing and Urban Development to James T. Molinario Jr. and Karen F. Molinario.

Joan Drive 38172: $279,900, Erica Fleming Spano to Britt S. Ordes and Alisha R. Olive.

Milton Craddock Road 67360: $112,627, PennyMac Loan Services LLC to Secretary of Veterans Affairs.

Oakley Blvd. 537: $215,900, DSLD Homes LLC to Brian J. Nuebel and Lynn Nuebel.

Summerfield Loop East 204: $340,000, Coast Builders LLC to Laney Ann Wright and Romey Ace Wright Jr.


Addis Blvd. 125: $20,000, Roxanne Ellis Forrest to Deep Roots Investments LLC.

Alisa Drive 6736: $188,000, Tammy Ann Pinto Fernandes to Angela G. Givens.

Azores Drive 238: $724,000, SRMOF II 2011-Trust to Gregory Fernandez.

Brian Drive 222: $70,000, Kevin D. Wise to Carter Custom Homes LLC.

Camborne Lane 105: $252,500, Jennifer Moses Durr to Ryan J. Moring and Katlin E. Moring.

Carey St. 3102: $73,500, Federal National Mortgage Association to Robert Bradley and Charlette C. Bradley.

Cedar Ave. 57366: $10,000, Bank of Louisiana to Custom Craft Homes Inc.

Celeste Circle 101: $95,000, Residential Asset Securities Corp. 2005-KS11 to Michael D. Bentson and Elizabeth S. Bentson.

Chancer Lane 1654: $138,000, Andre' R. Walker and Antoinette B. Walker to Sammy G. Aguirre-Ponce and Nelmy Padilla Echeverria.

Charles Court 112: $295,000, Eugene Gorski and Kristen M. Adaline and Greg T. Adaline to Linda D. MacBeth.

Crane St. 2121: $98,000, Keith E. Lutz to Marissa A. Roberts.

Cross Gates Blvd. 216: $207,000, Khuong Duy Nguyen and Kiem Bao Tran Nguyen to Uzochukwu G. Ugwu.

Cypress Lakes of Oak Harbor subdivision, lot 252: $65,000, donation, William F. Greul and Megan Ann Jobert Greul to Intrepid Builders LLC.

Defiance Drive 111: $125,000, Rebellious Group LLC to Lionel M. Kinler Sr.

Eden Isles Blvd. 203: $350,000, Scott Timmons to Avraham J. Zeevi and Rachel Z. Zeevi.

Eden Isles Blvd. 405: $437,000, Josephine D. Gambino to Stephen E. Black and Latanye S. Black.

Ellingsworth Drive 1418: $149,900, Dorothy Robertson Kastner to Shamecha Lynette Bender.

Hampshire Drive 58274: $40,000, R&M Delaney LLC to Abdulrahaman Saleh Ali and Riga Saleh Ali.

Harbor Drive 1580: $105,000, David D. Roberts to Sidney C. Smith.

Hollow Rock Court 122: donation, no value stated, Charles Wayne Cook Jr. to Linda Hogue Cook.

Jay St. 2202: $121,000, Kathleen A. Englund to Salvadore Gendusa III and Christy B. Gendusa.

Jefferson Ave. 57960: $155,000, Robert B. Wagner and Sarah S. Wagner to Ethan T. Andrews.

Kingspoint subdivision, Phase 4, lots 14, 15, 16, square 18: $171,750, John S. George and Pamela G. George to John C. Cromedy and Tashsa S. Cromedy.

Lee Drive 508: $35,000, James E. Shaffette Jr. to Darrin V. Bush.

Leeds Drive 209: $373,000, Kerry A. Boyack and Deusdedina P. Boyack to BNS Investments LLC.

Mallard St. 2417: $93,304, NovaStar Mortgage Funding Trust Series 2006-4 to Bernard D. Ory Sr.

Maple Drive 4243: $105,000, Demetrio Rodriguez and Lorena Z. Rodriguez to John S. Hrabley Jr. and Ashley E. Hrabley.

Marina Drive 1700: $250,000, Chase J. Favre and Lindsay B. Favre to Chantelle R. Jabbia.

Marina Drive 1769: $230,000, W.C.P. Inc. to Perry M. Balli and Angela C. Balli.

Maris Stella Ave. 1001: $85,000, James T. Wright, Jack E. Wright, Faye Wright Bailey and Thomas A. Stanley to 1001 Maris Stella LLC.

Moonraker Drive 182: $254,000, Richard P. Saavedra Jr. and Amanda B. Saavedra to Steven P. Bourgeois Sr. and Steven P. Bourgeois Jr.

Oak Harbor Estates, lot 26: $312,500, Nina Cappo Ory Baudier to Jonathan B. Watts.

Pearl St. 4154: $135,000, Adair Holdings LLC to Adles P. Dufrene Jr.

PK Way 202: $192,900, Matthew A. Hunter and Jennifer H. Hunter to Michael S. Cuccia and Krystin M. Butler Cuccia.

Portsmouth Drive 413: $74,000, Randolph E. Bergeron Jr. and Lynn F. Bergeron revocable living trust to Land Trust Inc. LLC.

Richard Ave. 61038: $70,000, Morris J. Laurent and Victoria C. Laurent to James M. Bigner Jr., Ashley Ann Caillouet and Susan Ann Adams.

River Gardens subdivision, lot 11: $5,500, KTF Properties LLC to Murray J. Sorapuru Jr. and Karen P. Sorapuru.

Rue Royal 117: $295,000, Succession of Shelia Dianne Mabe Wager to Joshua Paul S. Samford and Flavia A. Garcia Melo.

S. Ferry Lake Court 702: $185,900, Roger G. Williams to Christopher Robinson.

Sunset Drive 1314: $129,000, Christine A. Gowan White to Nadine B. Torres.

Turtle Creek subdivision, Phase 1, lot 32: $399,000, Julie B. Adams to Robert A. Collard and Christine Kathleen Moan.

W. Howze Beach Drive 618: $77,000, Sheila Carter to Tran Property Management LLC.

W. Lake Drive 420: $236,600, D. R. Horton Inc.-Gulf Coast to Elizabeth S. Taylor.


Katie Lane 81390: $420,000, Lloyd Paul Lemle Jr. and Constance F. Lemle to Eric M. Johnson and Alicia C. Johnson.

Section 15, township 5 south, range 13 east, lots A, B: $20,000, Patrick Beaver to Leslie Hamrick.

Section 34, township 5 south, range 13 east, portion of ground: $10,000, Kevin M. Hickman and Suzette L. Hickman to Obeck Cabinets Inc.

Section 50, township 5 south, range 13 east, portion of ground: donation, no value stated, David C. Stroble and Jeffrey B. Stroble to Nicholas R. Meyers and Clay W. Meyers.

Section 7, township 5 south, range 12 east, portion of ground: $155,000, Succession of Vivian Sharp Kennedy to Nolan Farms LLC.

Section 7, township 5 south, range 12 east, portion of ground: $100, Lee Roy Sharp to Succession of Vivian Sharp Kennedy.